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21 March 2013 @ 11:50 am
Once Upon a Time Review - Welcome to Storybrooke  
Yep, it's Thursday and here I am with my review of OUAT. I should just face it that I am not very good at doing things quickly. *g* Who knows though, maybe unlike Regina I can learn from my mistakes.

Like time I'm doing a picspam/review since I thought that worked out well. So here goes...

This episode gets right to the heart of why Regina adopted Henry, how this is not particularly a good thing, and how Regina has relied on hurting everyone around her to make herself happy which is NEVER going to work. There are a lot of people in this world who can't learn from their mistakes think this time it is GOING TO WORK and it never does since they are always going in the wrong direction from what they really want. Yes, Rumpel has encouraged this behavior in Regina since it fit with his aims and I certainly understand her reluctance to even listen to him now (what did it ever get her?), but at some point I hope she will look at herself and realize she needs to change.


She wants Henry's fake love now? She has already had fake love! And fake everything! She hated it within a week. The curse which she thought would made her happy forever, the one she destroyed an entire world for, the one she killed her father for, the one she tore a hole in her heart for - it wasn't enough because it wasn't real. But Regina keeps thinking that winning will make her happy, and not just winning, winning everything forever while destroying everything and everyone she hates. When Regina talks about never learning from her mistakes she isn't kidding. I wonder how long it would take for her to begin be angry with Henry for not being real? Or would she be able to convince herself it was?


Perhaps it is all about playing house for her. She does it with Owen in the creepiest baking scene ever. You can't properly play house without a child and Henry is attempt number three. Snow doesn't count since their relationship was all vengeance on Regina's side. But with Hansel and Gretel and then Owen she was quite happy to destroy their families (and clearly never intended for either family to be reunited - she tried to have Hansel and Gretel killed before they could reunite with their father in Storybrooke and never released Owen's father in all the years of the curse) if it meant there was any chance she could convince the children to stay with her. Because as always it is ALL ABOUT HER. No one else's feelings or needs are important, just that she wants to be a mother, to be a mother NOW, and to have that child who is in front of her. The big difference with Henry is that she did learn enough to make sure her next child had NO PARENTS.


Ha. Joke's on her. First Henry's mother shows up. And then his grandparents present themselves. And now he has a father too. What is an Evil Queen to do? Clearly the answer is to KILL THEM ALL. And then over their bodies with the heart of his grandmother in her hand, she'll make sure Henry is hers and hers alone forever. In Regina's world that is win/win. And if she isn't happy, well there is always next time.


Unfortunately for her latest evil plan, not only is Henry quite persuasive in convincing her not put a brainwashing spell on him but Gold is also much better at protecting Snow White than either she or Charming are at protecting Belle. (They are SO LUCKY Regina didn't want to kill her that day.) You shall not pass! And he does that suddenly appearing trick which he does so well. It is not enough for Regina to walk in and be all disappointed that Gold is standing watch. No, he needs to get her hopes up and then - BAM - there he is. Such a troll. Actually he is full of helpfulness and family spirit in this episode. (Family spirit being the chosen bludgeon the Charming family are using to beat him about the head in an effort to get him to play nice. Being part of their family is NOT a bonus for him.)


He tries to convince Regina to give up this whole vengeance thing. Because, hey it's not like he encouraged it in the first place. But now it is just annoying especially with the Charmings going on about family every five minutes.


He warns everyone that Regina is planning something evil! And then helps them find out what it is!


He even gives Snow some advice on dealing with doing evil things. Advice which I think tells a great deal about him. Well, you tell yourself you did the right thing. And if you say it often enough, one day you might actually believe it. This is not a man who is happy with himself or really believes he has any capacity for good left. This is a man who knows it doesn't matter the ultimate reason he has done evil; it's still evil. It doesn't matter that he is cursed. It doesn't matter that he is trying to find his son again. It doesn't matter what masks he wears as he lures people into traps shaped like deals.


But this is ultimately the story of Regina trying again and again for her happy ending. And the story of Owen. One of the many people whose lives she has destroyed in her quest. No matter how the show tries to frame this by giving us Regina's sad face, the fact remains: she ripped his father away from him and left him an orphan because she decided that anything she wants she will take. No matter the wreckage she leaves behind her. Unfortunately for her some of the wreckage has caught up with her and has its own agenda.

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~Lirpa~: Once Upon a Time: Regina: Smilekatje0711 on March 21st, 2013 05:20 pm (UTC)
Regina is a huge mess! What did you make of that scene between her and Snow when she removed Snow's heart? Do you think she was just trying to put doubt into Snow or will Snow's heart continue to grow blacker?

I swear I thought Owen was a younger Henry! He had the speech mannerisms of Henry to a T! So, now he's back looking for his father. I wonder who is father is in the town.
daybreak777: regina henrydaybreak777 on March 22nd, 2013 03:01 am (UTC)
I swear I thought Owen was a younger Henry!
Me too! They keep faking us out like they did with August.

Where the heck is August?
~Lirpa~: Once Upon a Time: Henrykatje0711 on March 22nd, 2013 03:51 am (UTC)
I'm glad I wasn't the only one!

Good question!
Chloris: Once Upon Regina featherschloris on March 22nd, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
She is! She fell off the redemption wagon and is going back to her old ways of doing things and even has a shiny new reason to hate Snow White.

I do think Snow's heart will grow blacker. And I think that is one of the dangers of FTL characters living in our world. Our world is all grey and they come from a place of black and white. However, all hope is not lost! I do think she will be brought back as well!

If his father is still alive (30 years after all and he would age), they I would think that Regina has had him locked up all this time. Not good.
rodlox: if i am wrongrodlox on April 30th, 2013 03:48 am (UTC)
if he's been in the Cursed town, wouldn't he too be unaging?
rodlox: if i am wrongrodlox on April 30th, 2013 03:47 am (UTC)
when the show opened in 1983, I thought "wait, what happened to Henry's hair? and why is he in '83? what are the writers doing?"
Julie: OUAT - Regina 'evil to my name'julie_izumi on March 21st, 2013 06:47 pm (UTC)
I really liked Lana Parilla in this ep! It helped making it more interesting because I think the Charmings are becoming more boring each week! lol
I can't wait to know where Owen' story is going, now that we know that he has a history linked with the town!
Chloris: Once Upon Snow&Regina Applechloris on March 22nd, 2013 03:12 pm (UTC)
She is a wonderful actress. But she also gets A LOT to work with on the show. The Charmings are getting NO focus and no drama devoted to them lately. And there is plenty of it if they wrote it! So, yeah, they are getting less interesting but they don't have to be.

I was happy to find out about Owen and where he fits and they brought him into the main theme of families with the whole plot about losing his father.
aleysiasnape: dh5aleysiasnape on March 21st, 2013 10:57 pm (UTC)
I just loved this episode! And I love your review! At least we no who the stranger is now. Which leaves me to thinking, what did Regina do to his dad?
Chloris: Once Upon Regina Evil Laughchloris on March 22nd, 2013 03:14 pm (UTC)
Yep! And I thought it was a good twist since I didn't even consider anyone getting caught in the curse when it landed.

Regina does have a whole asylum. One that, like her prisons in the castle in FTL, no one has even thought to check out to see who is in it.
earthspirits: OUAT ~ Regina (forest)earthspirits on March 22nd, 2013 12:59 am (UTC)
Excellent review!

While I am rooting for eventual redemption for Regina, it's really time that the writers (finally!) have her character start to really think about others besides herself and her own "happy" ending (which is obviously pretty hopeless, if this ep is anything to go by).

Of course, despite all the serious business going on in this ep, there was one supremely ridiculous moment...namely Regina talking into the bat phone (I mean "heart phone"), and that very awkward moment when Owen's dad strolled in. Hard to take anything serious with stuff like that added to the mix. lol

Still, it was an entertaining ep, and I liked seeing the different facets of Gold throughout.

Love Lana Parilla...but gods, someone give Regina a hug (and a therapy couch). She really needs to get back to therapy sessions asap with our dear Archie!
Chloris: Once Upon Archiechloris on March 22nd, 2013 03:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks!

Are you talking about her happy ending being hopeless or character growth being hopeless? Because I think there is hope for both. Once she truly learns to care about other's happiness (especially Henry) and expands her definition of a happy ending from 'I will win EVERYTHING and EVERYONE else will lose' then there is hope. So long as her happiness depends on other people's misery she will never be happy.

Heh. The heart scene was pretty amusing. The only scene I had trouble rewatching though was the dinner scene. It was profoundly creepy.

Therapy sessions are definitely in order and Archie would be willing no matter what so long as he can help.
earthspirits: OUAT ~ Archieearthspirits on March 22nd, 2013 06:02 pm (UTC)
I'm referring to Regina's "happy ending" (and her growth as a person) being hopeless UNTIL she finally learns to think about other people in a kinder, or at least, more benign way (and this ep perfectly highlighted this character flaw in Regina).

And agreeing with you, that as long as Regina thinks her happiness only comes from others' misery, that she will always be unhappy and hollow herself.

Still waiting for her character to finally "get" it, and really start a true redemption arc. It's really something she needs to learn to do for herself, and not just for Henry, although wanting to change for Henry is at least a start in the right direction.

I think Archie could become a good friend to Regina eventually, if she'll just open her heart, and stop seeing the world in terms of revolving around herself, and her own emotional pain, and disappointment.

Not to mention, we'd get more Archie screen time. Love his character, one of my all time faves!

It's an interesting concept...redemption. Really want to see this happen for Regina AND Rumple.

daybreak777: snow white appledaybreak777 on March 22nd, 2013 02:59 am (UTC)
Aww. Owen's sadface trumps Regina's sadface. Poor little Owen. I have to say I'm very surprised Regina let him go. Sure, she did something with his father but she did let the boy go. She must have been very lonely.

I have completely forgotten Hansel and Gretel. Wiped clean from my memory. Thanks for reminding me!

Poor Rumpel too! He's so woobie sometimes. He really doesn't believe he's worthy of love. But he must be! I believe there must be chances for happy endings.

I also hope Henry's family comes together somehow. He needs all of them.
Chloris: Once Upon Mr. Gold profilechloris on March 22nd, 2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
Much sadder! He was losing his father for no reason he could understand and she was losing the chance to play house! And I am not even a little impressed that she let Owen go. If she really cared at all she would have had Graham release dad too. What she did was consign him to a lifetime of pain. His whole life has been twisted because Regina wanted to keep him.

Rumpel doesn't believe he is but Belle does. What he needs to have her back! And I think everyone has a chance of a happy ending so long as they are alive. Just probably not this season. :)
daybreak777: snow white appledaybreak777 on March 23rd, 2013 02:14 am (UTC)
Heee! Probably not this season! I don't really want them to get their endings too quickly. Hell, Rumpel and Regina have A LOT of making up to do for all the harm they've caused.

I feel pretty woobie toward all of them most of the time. I just want them to be happy. Except I'm strangely cold about Charming. Because he bores me to tears. (The prince in my icon has more humor. ;-)) I could care less what happens to him. But I want everyone else to be happy. From the nuns to the mechanics to the dwarves.

Every last one. Just not for at least another season!
ustas_fish: Rumpel_wheeljust_ustas on March 22nd, 2013 09:27 am (UTC)
maybe regina has her heart, but in many ways she is very alike to her mother. everytime it "i want this and you must to give me what i want!". maybe later she'll regret of results and would be unhappy again. BUT she never learning from her mistakes. and she will make them again, and again, and again... that's her problem.

unlike regina rumple made conclusion from his past. and he definitely lost his bloodthirst. he changed a lot. this episode clear show it. yes, maybe he is such a troll :) but that who he is, and he needs some toys to play with.)) after all everyone need some entertainment.

my opinion of cause, but in this episode rumple is the best part of family. actually he tryed to help everyone. isn't it irony for the dark one? and this was his own decision, not by the threat of charming. (*gee* sometime they forget who he is actually.)

and by the way about family spirit — interesting way how goodies show it. first - "go away!"; then - "you MUST to help us". and then he'll be not worth their family again? exactly like they blamed regina in cricket death and then they did not feel the need to apologize. very interesting point of view.

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     Mandya_phoenixdragon on March 22nd, 2013 03:22 pm (UTC)
and by the way about family spirit — interesting way how goodies show it. first - "go away!"; then - "you MUST to help us". and then he'll be not worth their family again? exactly like they blamed regina in cricket death and then they did not feel the need to apologize. very interesting point of view.


This right here!! Wow, I can never articulate that this perfectly! Sometimes the good guys...well, they're good guys, but they have less than stellar qualities. Love that about this show - that they show this so well. Because they aren't JUST telling tales about the 'good guys'. They are telling from both sides. And sometimes good isn't as good as it thinks it is and bad isn't always BAD. Misguided, desperate and lonely...but not always BAD. Sometimes, the good guys drive the bad guys further down the path - by behaving as if they will never be redeemed no matter what they do.

Snow and Charming driving Regina straight to Cora for example...
Chloris: Once Upon Mr. Gold Rumpelstiltskinchloris on March 23rd, 2013 12:59 am (UTC)
Well, her mother did raise her! And I think she has been consciously and unconsciously trying to emulate her ever since she pushed her through the looking glass. Also, maybe one of the prices of evil like hers is that you remain stuck in the same patterns.

Rumpel has to have a little fun! He is stuck on guard duty after all. However, I do think he likes Snow and feels somewhat guilty about what he did to her.

Yeah, Charming can't REALLY threaten him. He could flatten them all in a minute. But they definitely know how to lay on the guilt. :)
     Mandy: OUaT - Regina B&Wa_phoenixdragon on March 22nd, 2013 03:18 pm (UTC)
And that ending with Snow!! That...epiphany. What is the point of trying to be better when there IS nothing better. When it doesn't stop the blackness from spreading or heal the wound it leaves behind.

I think what is really horrible about all of this, is she was truly trying to go back to being the good guy, finding something good (like that was owed to her - a happy ending to come out of a Curse where there are NO happy endings). She truly didn't get what she had done wrong until she was caught doing MORE wrong. People are NOT your pawns. They are not there to bend to one's will. And they will fight back for what is theirs. Gods...poor Cliff. Wonder what happened to him.

*Cries*

Yeah...the Charmings are rather hypocritical at times. Before he arrived back in Storybrooke (when they were planning on keeping his dagger to keep him from 'harming anyone' - which was a joke because he wasn't the problem), they were all Dark One this and Dark One that. THEN he's family. But only when you need something from him. David's continued hostility toward him kinda annoys me. Every deal he's made with him has been to David's own benefit and he's hardly paid any prices. He bitched all throughout helping Gold find Belle, but expects graciousness and kindness when he asks the same in return. He's continually pissy with Gold - is it any wonder Gold is irritable back? The Charmings are more of a headache than a help - and now with Henry as his undoing...

Love that he helped Snow though. He just...does that - and cannot see where he can be the good guy?!

All in all, a fantastic episode. I DO kinda feel sorry for Regina - but mostly because she just doesn't grasp it. It's almost like learning magic lost her every ounce of common sense. The Curse DID give her a hole in her heart - and maybe it would have been better if it had left her...heartless.

*HUGS*
Chloris: Once Upon Mr. Gold Red Swirlchloris on March 23rd, 2013 01:24 am (UTC)
Ah, but this Regina's view! Just because she thinks Snow will now always get more evil and more black doesn't mean it is true! In fact in can't be or there is no hope for any of the villains to ever achieve happy endings.

Regina has spent so much time only caring about what she wants and taking anything she desired while rationalizing it afterward that I don't know if she understands how to respect other people at all anymore. And I'm sure living with poseable dolls for 28 years didn't help.

Everyone is like that though. No one wants anything to do with Rumpel unless they want something from him. That is what he says to Snow at one point - no one sees him without a deal in mind. I think that is why Belle is such a shock to him! Someone who wants to be with him because she wants to be with him.

I'm not particularly upset with the whole Charming guilt thing since it's rather funny. But clearly being part of their family is NOT a bonus for Rumpel! :D

He agreed to protect Snow and he did it until he wasn't needed. I am rather upset no one was keeping track of Belle. Since she did need help and it was nowhere to be found.

Regina has to learn from her mistakes someday, right? Actually she better since more than a season of this would be quite annoying.

*HUGS*
rodlox: if i am wrongrodlox on April 30th, 2013 03:56 am (UTC)
>Just because she thinks Snow will now always get more evil and more black doesn't mean it is true!
this is true...but thinking it to be so, is probably the reason why Regina let Snow live.
rodloxrodlox on April 30th, 2013 03:46 am (UTC)
I think the fake-love spell shows just how desperate Regina was becoming. she's tried to improve herself for Henry's sake, she's tried to refrain from doing magic, she's protected Henry from further netherworld-burns...and she's gotten, what, a single "Thank you"?

heck, she killed her own mother (thereby saving Gold and the town) - and everyone goes "oh, poor Snow."
I'd say its enough to give anyone a complex, but some would say Regina already has one.

>she tried to have Hansel and Gretel killed before they could reunite with their father in Storybrooke
killed? i thought they were being put up for adoption.

{that's in town; in FTL, killed, definately - through no fault of Gretel's - Regina noticed Hansel's appetite, yes?}

> and never released Owen's father in all the years of the curse)
...which raises the question of where Kurt is - is he the janitor of Storybrooke's Asylum?

the irony is - i think its irony, anyway; wrong word? - is that plotwise, it doesn't matter if Regina released/never released Owen's dad (into the woods, where he could wander without being found)...plotwise, what matters is what Owen is convinced of: that Regina still has his dad.
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